My blood is actually boiling right now. I've just been alerted to the fact that members from this forum, have gone behind my back on a number of forums

- Ifusion
- IF.vision.com

and requested the tag codes.

Now to me that is really immature and stupid. I respected the fact that there are other advertising forums out there, and have helped many with posts/new topics.

Some members pm'd me this week asking me for the tag codes, and I said no. I said no for a few reasons.

• Jamie the retired admin on here, thought up the idea for use on forums. Why should someone else just blantantly copy the idea, that took quite a bit of work to come up with?
  
  
• MadAds has always tried to keep one step ahead with advertising ideas. Again, we don't want to look like every other advertising forum ...

O yeah? Really... ? Its not stealing. It is stealing. Course its stealing. You just ripped it out of the source. Maybe you should read the source a little better.


I've lost complete respect for the members in question. Makes me question whats the point in having an advertising forum, if our great ideas to advertise your forums are being exploited.


Thanks.


Thanks a bunch.

Awww.. Don't go mad Madgal... You are still unique... Those people are just completely immature.

If they happened to steal the tag codes you'd still be quite a few steps ahead of them Madgal. MadAds is too unique. I don't think anyone would go to a place where they stole the codes.

But I see where you're coming from,

I was also pretty ticked off to see all this going as well.

Be original people...copying from other people isn't going to give you the success they had.

All copying does is make the people who know how to run boards not want to anymore if anything they can think up that's decent and perhaps original gets stolen from them.

Filter there forums so they can't advertise?

I don't plan to allow them advertise on here anymore. The members in question. Why should I?
You ripped our great idea, now you want to fluant it in our faces?

Don't think so somehow.


I love the rest of the members! :D

ll this does is proves how good madads is having people copy us. BUT im not saying you should madads is unique the tag ads is only unique to madads not any other board. The code was created for madads and madads only. So go and come up with your own ideas and stop copying madads.

Don't worry Madgal, calm down. :) MadAds will always be better :P

Maybe if you name names it will help? And tbh ideas are there to be stolen, it happens all the major ad boards.

I'm not going to start a whole bitch fight on here. I think the members know who they are.

If you are giong to take the codes, at least rebuild them to your specifications. Don't take it straight off and go "Haha, I took it from you." At least have enough balls to rebuild them.

And IFusion called themselves coders. Bah.

Not to be negative or anything but you have taken ideas from other advertising forums on Madads. "Sneaky Peak Forums" is an idea I started on IFA & Signature ads was started by craig on Adu. So to be honest you can't complain. If they coded it themselves although they haven't in this case, then you can't say nothing.

It's "then you can't say anything." Double negatives are bad.

If they coded it, then they would've had no problem with it.

every decent unique idea is bound to be copied, u just gotta say "*I really shouldn't use bad language* you" and move on.

Guess we've just go to move ahead of the competition once again, I know its hard to get these idea's but we'll just get there idea's of there original forums :P.

Thats why I don't join many boards any more same topics and other similarities which just make foruming boring, why go to different boards just because they have different skin, they still have same topics and features.

Madads my home so im going to always stay here.

Damn i went a bit off topic then :P.

Codes will be always found out. Theres people who know how to code no doubt. There is no copyright or anything on these tag ads. But i see were your coming from.

Actually earlier today, Jamie was promoted to admin to add a copyright into his code today so now it does have one so no more of this copying business or so I hope.

Where have you been living all your life? This isn't a perfect world if you didn't already know. When good things happen, or in the case of good ideas, they get copied. No matter what.

If the idea actually works, and it helps improve people's activity why wouldn't people try and re-make the code?

If you're going to go on a rant about unique services and how people have stolen them I'd suggest you remove the following:

- Yellow Pages
- Forum Text Ads
- Signature Ads
- Forum of the Week
- Graphics Request
- MadAd Bundles

I'm pretty sure you don't own any of these service, nor did you think of them up uniquely. They were ALL copied at one point. The same thing happened with rotational banners that Revision Reviews had (the ones that change without having to refresh) have already been duplicated and re-coded so that users can use them freely.

Things happen, get over it.

Since this has been blown out of context, and you clearly cannot read why exactly I am cross, I shall explain once again.

I am cross because the a couple of members pm'd me requesting the code for tag ads. I said no, and stated my reasons. The members then went behind my back to retrieve these codes - by reading the source.

I find that plain rude, and backstabbing. Thats why I am Cross.


At Ardy:
Sure. Why don't we all remove our forum lounges, introduction areas, feedback areas as well? :/

lol.. If I would remove everything here in madads that are not unique.. What's left?

The whole meaning of unique has been exploited on forums.

Wether or not Madads has things on it that other ad forum have is besides the point Madgal is hurt and betrayed, and I think this sucks. people should learn what no means.

uniqueness is so overrated IMO

+1

It will always be like that, there will always be people using other people's ideas because it's good. Just restrict those users from advertising here and move on.

No, Mokata came up with those banner ads way before RR.

I was not here when MadAds first was created or whatever, but I am more than confident if they said they made them, they did; no other forum is still open that was two years old, is it? Even if another ad forum died and Madgal morphed their ideas, she changed it, thus originality. Just changing the name of course is not original, though. Not saying she did, they could be hers. And other forums copied them...

If that makes any sense... Basically I'm agreeing with MadAds and not them XD

Each board has to have its own identity and things that you associate with it.

Much like how if you say free ad board the first thing you are going to think about is Hireem. They beaten in the association between free ad board and Hireem into everyone's head. you might have noticed that most of the other free ad boards haven't done well like Hireem did as they stolen its ideas but not the people who made them a reality and made them work and then they fail.

For us, the first thing that you are greeted to when you see the board is those tag ads. hell even the banner isn't noticed first as that' part of the look of Madads and I will be damned to see other people just take the code off and use it. it was made for us and us alone and the idea and code behind it just don't spring up out of nowhere.

instead of looking at other boards that are successful and stealing from them how about you all find your own ideas and make your board different and stand out from the rest.

What you name your forums doesn't make you unique so abusing that thesaurus isn't going to make you unique at all as it's how you run it that makes it unique.

though we can make our forum names stand out without abusing a thesaurus which is something few can do these days.

Now this is going to sound funny to some or maybe just me but I go on many different ad boards and hardly any of them actually have staff really getting involved with discussing and helping out other forums via posting constructive and positive comments about your board. most times you're lucky if you get a multi mod post and some good board or good luck posts which are useless to anyone.

we here make it a point of actually going into your ad topic and discussing your board and instead of you having to post useless bump posts that you can actually get a decent conversation started, get a few tips and tricks to help you out and some attention towards your advertisement which is the whole point of advertising now is it so why not have staff make it their job to do that for you provided you are advertising a board that people are going to want to be a part of.

we might not have all original services but I am proud to say we have services that work and actually get you something. that's what people want most of all as honestly, no one really cares enough that it is original if it works and benefits the person using it.

We been up two years and have to been doing something right to get this far so perhaps doing your own thing and standing out from the crowd with your own ideas that aren't blatantly stolen from other boards just might do the trick.

you see you can steal the ideas from the board but you can't take the people who made those ideas a reality and made them work and for that your stolen idea will not work for you like it did for us.

my two cents.

Is Esaul in trouble? He didn't do anything wrong. He made a whole rant about how stupid it is to copy from people and he was getting at the member in question about being original and not stealing. Nicola wasn't too happy with Esaul =(

Well I see it as this... you made some really dumb choices yesterday and pissed some people off me being one of them BUT I don't make any decisions while angry as anger clouds the mind and makes you do dumb things which I am not about to do so I waited for the angry feelings to clear before doing anything and I see it as nothing more then one poorly thought out decision that you seem to have learned something from and that's what matters most to me at least.

Eh. In all seriousness:

I've been constantly getting at the member in question several times now on many different ad boards about the site he/she is working on. Talked about how he/she can't always go around being so inconsiderate, not being original, not trusting anyone, being just too cocky. And I decide that I would just send a link his/her way in all fairness, not once did I even claim that I made the code, so I don't know why Nicola said I was ripping. I put the source that I used to begin with. In my mind, I didn't do anything wrong. I just decided to help for a chance the member in question instead of give grief (even though I somewhat did that anyway). There was no thought process, I even scolded the member for copying MadAds, so it wasn't like I was sneaking around trying to backstab one of the best advert sites around. In fact, it was quite the opposite. I had a conscious, I defended, getting at the member for not being original. There was no dump decisions on my part. There was me trying to help someone out. It would be a different story if I decided to whip up tag ads code myself and hand it on a silver platter, correct? Correct. Even MadGal knows how loyal I am to MadAds. Sure, I disappear and stop posting from time to time, my heart never falters for this site. Why else would I be the most recurring staff member on here? I've applied and been accepted no less than four times. That shows that I have a great deal of loyalty to MadAds, so doesn't that mean I wouldn't even dream of betraying you guys? I linked to a source. A source. I didn't make a copy of it for this member. I didn't try and hack onto the ACP to steal Jamie's work.

Ban -> Filter Links -> Ask other forums nicely to remove code -> Profit?

That's all a forum could do.

There's a difference between copying/plagiarism and research. Research is just that, looking into what works and what doesn't. One site might not be unique with just one unique feature, however a unique set of set/combination of traits and features can make a site different without having something revolutionary.

A lot of forums have had tag clouds before, but they were used differently.

Hope that helps.

When was the exact date you added this?
I saw it before i came to Madads at promoteforfree.net

I think P4F's was added after this, using a different code as well.

Aww I missed another fight. *sigh* Madgal Hun, fu.ck them. Half of the forums out there aren't worth shi.t. You might have to start claim in banners that this forum is original and anyone else that uses our uniqueness is a loser or something. :P Anyways, as always it sucks and I would love to kick those members in the ass for being immature bitches with no lives because they can have a damn code. Stupid hatters. For every 1 Good forum, you have 15 hater forums.

*yes I wanted to say something, but forgot the other part of my thougts....*

Necromancy anyone? This topic was a month old. Should've stayed buried.